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bel8 11 hours ago [-]
So DeepSeek v4 will cost 2x between 9:00 to 12:00 and 14:00 to 18:00, Beijing Time.
This is UTC+8 so to get cheaper DeepSeek:
- in London (BST / UTC+1): 11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00.
- in NY (EDT / UTC-4): 06:00 to 21:00, and 00:00 to 02:00.
- in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.
Subscription plans like OpenCode Go might not even pass down this 2x cost since most customers are EU/US.
2muchtime 44 minutes ago [-]
Does opencode go use deepseek infrastructure?
I thought they just used open weights models on infrastructure they get from someone else. They say,
“What about data and privacy?
The plan is designed primarily for international users, with models hosted in the US, EU, and Singapore for stable global access. Our providers follow a zero-retention policy and do not use your data for model training.”
Note "cheaper" is only relative to the 2x peak price. The off-peak price is still the same price as today. In other words they hiked the price 2x for peak hours only.
CharlesW 11 hours ago [-]
> in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.
I think that’s incorrect. For California (PDT), 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am. During PST, the CA windows will be 5–8pm and 10pm–2am.
NooneAtAll3 10 hours ago [-]
> 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am
that's why cheaper price is 03-18 and 21-23, aka 3am-6pm,9pm-11pm
CharlesW 8 hours ago [-]
Oops, the "cost 2x" mention in the first paragraph confused me. Thanks!
11 hours ago [-]
stavros 11 hours ago [-]
I don't understand, you say that Deepseek will be more expensive for seven hours a day and then give five hours a day where it's cheaper in London.
drcongo 11 hours ago [-]
11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00 is 17 hours right?
stavros 10 hours ago [-]
Ahh I'm very sleep deprived, thanks. Parsed 02:00 as 14:00.
drcongo 10 hours ago [-]
I just worked out that that was probably the cause. Hope you're not baking over there.
stavros 10 hours ago [-]
Thanks, I'm trying but it's been pretty hot. You guys have it worse though, I was just in London and it was unbearable. At least AC helps here.
0-_-0 11 hours ago [-]
That math makes no sense
bel8 9 hours ago [-]
Perhaps you read those western times as being the more expensive time windows? They are the cheaper times. I know it can be confusing.
But please let me know where my math is wrong.
egeozcan 10 hours ago [-]
For Berlin time (Germany, UTC+2, CEST), the 2x cost period is 03:00 - 06:00, and 08:00 - 12:00.
08:00 - 12:00 would have really hurt if prices were not ridiculously low to begin with.
osti 9 hours ago [-]
This announcement also mentioned that they will release the next version (official non preview version) of v4 in mid July.
gregman1 8 hours ago [-]
So for some time spans it goes from ridiculously cheap to just very very cheap? I support that and I see no problem whatsoever.
kiproping 10 hours ago [-]
I have not seen the official deepseek communication to this effect.
phainopepla2 10 hours ago [-]
I got an email from them with this information approximately six hours ago.
There is also a banner about the price change on their API platform site, at least for me
docheinestages 9 hours ago [-]
It's business at the end of the day. Don't get surprised if one day DeepSeek does a rug pull too.
downrightmike 7 hours ago [-]
Rug pull already underway. They're all heavily subsidized, that is drying up and they all need to show revenue if they are to survive.
polshaw 10 hours ago [-]
Content restricted in the UK
londons_explore 9 hours ago [-]
The same site seems to host cryptocurrency related things, and the UK has a bunch of crypto laws.
lmf4lol 7 hours ago [-]
It is truly sad to see what is happening to the UK.
mertleee 5 hours ago [-]
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vdfs 9 hours ago [-]
You were NOT the Chosen One! It was said that you would NOT destroy the Sith, BUT join them! Bring balance to the Sheets, not leave it in darkness!
throwitaway222 10 hours ago [-]
Yall trust LLM providers sweeping up keys and passwords? Sometimes you have a little .env file or config files in your repos that are not checked in... LLMs like to read that stuff and send it in. I don't trust any of the LLM providers, but less so the ones seated in China.
jst1fthsdys 9 hours ago [-]
Yes, never trust the perfidious chinamen or their evil LLMs. They are on another level of evil than our glorious and noble western LLMs that are used to bomb schools.
throwitaway222 8 hours ago [-]
GBT Reddit?
Havoc 3 hours ago [-]
Mostly yeah - convenience tradeoff is worthwhile. Though wouldn’t give it anything that could do serious damage like unrestricted GCP keys or something
This is UTC+8 so to get cheaper DeepSeek:
- in London (BST / UTC+1): 11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00.
- in NY (EDT / UTC-4): 06:00 to 21:00, and 00:00 to 02:00.
- in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.
Subscription plans like OpenCode Go might not even pass down this 2x cost since most customers are EU/US.
I thought they just used open weights models on infrastructure they get from someone else. They say,
“What about data and privacy?
The plan is designed primarily for international users, with models hosted in the US, EU, and Singapore for stable global access. Our providers follow a zero-retention policy and do not use your data for model training.”
https://opencode.ai/go
Note "cheaper" is only relative to the 2x peak price. The off-peak price is still the same price as today. In other words they hiked the price 2x for peak hours only.
I think that’s incorrect. For California (PDT), 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am. During PST, the CA windows will be 5–8pm and 10pm–2am.
that's why cheaper price is 03-18 and 21-23, aka 3am-6pm,9pm-11pm
But please let me know where my math is wrong.
08:00 - 12:00 would have really hurt if prices were not ridiculously low to begin with.
There is also a banner about the price change on their API platform site, at least for me